Comments on: 002: The Howletts

By: crazychris

crazychris — Wed, 07 Mar 2012 20:47:51 +0000

dog’s not sabretooth, that has been established nobody ever wrote creed;s origin yet exceot the part where he was abused by his dad just like dog was tooth isn’t even canadian likie logan and dog was. thomas logan and john howlett might be half brothers why else would howlett tolerate him on his properyt even after he had an affair with his wife. john might have been soft after all. elizabeth waqs from the hudson lineage and romulus proved to be the ancestor of the hudsons and creed somehow in romaN MYTHOLOGY romulus killed his brother remus so somehow sabretooth’s aNCESTRY CAME FROM REMUS which is why him and logan must always fight just like cain and aBEL. ROMULUS MINDWIPED CREED INTO THINKING HE WAS LOGAN’S FAther and wooping him somehow he tapped into creed’s memories as being abused as a child.

By: Carlos DeLeon

Carlos DeLeon — Thu, 11 Aug 2011 10:07:58 +0000

I always thought that John Howlett would be Sabretooth, and that Dog would be the middle child. As an adult, Dog still bore the facial scars; which would mean he doesn’t have a healing factor and couldn’t be Sabretooth.

By: JimmyCannonfodder

JimmyCannonfodder — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 00:58:38 +0000

Just looked at my above post……..one problem there is, Dog isn`t Elisabeth`s son……so he and white ghost share no parentage, his ma musta bin a mutie too.

By: JimmyCannonfodder

JimmyCannonfodder — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 00:56:38 +0000

Take the Thomas Logan relationship a step further…..

The physical resemblance between Wolverine and Thomoas Logan strongly implies that Thomas is James` father, but what about the resemblance between both of these and ol` Grandpa Howlett.

….it seems to me that Thomas Logan is to the Howletts what Ray Krebbs was to the Ewings in Dallas . ……the illigitimate son of the family patriarch who lives on the family land as groundskeeper.

That`s why, despite the fact that Wolverine and Dog are Thomas` biological sons, John Jr (The White Ghost) also has the physical similarity despite being John Howlett`s son.

So when Grandpa says “The last of my line died this morning”, he`s not disowning James/Wolverine, he`s disowning Thomas Logan, his illigitimate son.

Now we know from previous mutant stories that the mutant gene comes from the mother`s x chromosome, which means all three boys get it from their mother Elizabeth Howlett (nee Hudson)….

….that doesn`t necessarily mean that Grandpa Howlett wasn`t one.

Now somewhere, I remember a pic a friend showed me, of Wolverine in a painting done on a Japanes fishing boat that appeared to be way before 1890…….could be part of Weapon X faking his memories……..

…….or it could be his old Grandpappy.

By: kikiki

kikiki — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:24:09 +0000

I just don’t get how Logan in ‘X-Men: Origins’ kills his real father but leaves who he thought was his father but there were scars on Logan’s/James’ mom’s ribs but it didn’t say it in this movie. I’m confused, please help me.

By: Mutant's truth

Mutant's truth — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:24:36 +0000

I knew something was off about Logan and Victor’s(Sabretooth) existence.These two are actually half-brothers and that James’ mother had two affairs with the gardener who has the same resemblance to Logan as a grown man and mutant.Their faces looked the same and poor Victor,he was abused as a child and started hating Logan throughout his life.It’s no wonder that every year when Wolverine has a birthday, Sabertooth is the only one who remembers.They need to stop hating each other.Dog is actually Sabertooth’s childhood nickname other than Victor Creed. I read Wolverine:Origins and I had to figure it out for myself.I would like to have a new mutant that 1) looks like indentical to Logan in the face and size 2) someone who Logan doesn’t even know was related to him in a fatherly sense.3) has the same powers he has but a lot of different than any mutant in terms of metal-exoskeleton,superfast healing powers,transfomationand mimicking…oh that too much info to reveal right now.

By: roleplaying

roleplaying — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:55:13 +0000

I really liked Origin too. I personally like it more then the overly praised Weapon X story line.

Origin doesn’t have any direct tie in’s yet, with the exception of the “Wolverine: The End” story line. They haven’t said Dog is Sabretooth and I really hope they don’t. I am guessing Romulus might be Dog though, since it seems he want’s to make Logan pay for something. He even said that turning Logan into his weapon is a “act of revenge”.

By: tim

tim — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:23:03 +0000

Does anyone know if a direct sequel to Origin will ever be made? I would like to see what happened to Logan and Dog. I mean it was never really confirmed if Dog was or was not Creed and I would really like to see that Logan had full knowledge of his past at least at some point before Weapon-X.

By: Roleplay Adventures

Roleplay Adventures — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 18:35:53 +0000

The only good thing I can say is that Logan does not approve of what he was forced to do. Logan even gives Cyclops the only weapon in the world that can kill him. Before he leaves he tells Scott that “He Can’t use that weapon on his own son, and that it’s very possible they will capture him, brainwash him, and bring him back in.” Logan makes it clear that he will never live like that again and he’s counting on Cyclops to make sure that never happens again. This is evidence that strongly suggests that Logan was brainwashed by Romulus and those atrocities were not committed by Logan’s own hand.

Further more Emma Frost sheds some light on this subject by telling Logan that his son has no thoughts of his own. This reminds Logan of how he was first forced under Romulus’ own will. This shows us that both Logan and his own son were turned into slaves by Romulus. It’s also interesting to note that everyone was against Logan at this point, except for Emma who could read Logan’s mind. She understood that “they used him”, and she probably felt sorry for him. Maybe because she is also a fellow psychic and she knows how violated he must feel.

I love the Muramasa blade and how it is the only weapon capable of killing those with a healing factor. It’s also neat how it’s able to reflect a optic blast beam. I really hope they continue to use it.

By: Sean

Sean — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:55:37 +0000

well people, I’ve made my decision and I’ll be starting with Weapon X to later on move on to the essential X-men stuff. Hopefully this’ll get me interested and give me enough info on all edges and areas. From that maybe first class. But I want to wait with origin a bit to keep the “mystery-thing” alive.

Thanks for all the help so far. Probably haven’t heard the last of me yet. :P Cheers!